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| Quote Fishermanscap="Fishermanscap"I've no doubt. However, that's not the point. I can guarantee you that you will find 20 versions of the said story as with many others regarding Coronavirus, all with a slant that suits their particular agenda, That's fine in the cut and thrust of real life. It will also be ok once all this is over. There is a time and a place and now isn't it.
The conceit seems to be amongst the press and a lot of people, in general, is that they are keeping the Government on its toes and holding it to account a sort of crusading for the public. This IMHO it shows arrogance or a sense of attention-seeking that I don't like and I feel to be unhelpful and dishonest.
I don't say this to defend Ministers of Civil Servants, I say it because virtually nobody is an expert on this subject and even those who have until now only ever dealt in hypotheticals. Yet now led by the tiresome Piers Morgan they are all expert and have all the answers and expect a huge government apparatus to be able to adjust to their pet theories instantly.
It's overused but now is the time for solidarity and that include the FACT that we have to go with those in charge under the assumption that they are doing their best There must be a sound reason why people are still entering the country, it may not be a reason you approve of but that's why we have governments, people who are willing to make decisions. Ever been to a meeting where the chair asks the audience their opinion? I have and often there is a wall of silence. People chelp a lot but when given the chance they rarely contribute.
There is something unpleasant about most politicians, however, as yet I'm not aware of an alternative.
We could run the country X-Factor style but I have seen the way the general public seem to vote I don't think that's a great idea.
So IMO and it's only my opinion in extraordinary times like this the press needs to be reigned in and stories need to be stringently checked, not censored but checked for accuracy. That's not reducing free speech, it's reducing false information by having to justify what's been printed. This is what happened in WW2 and our democracy seemed to survive.
As for the story, it seems true, the context however is not, because I still don't know the reason why.
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If anyone was harbouring any lingering doubts that FC is Vastman - this should put paid to it; because Vasty, for all his faults, would never preach this kind of lickspittle, cap-doffing servility to a Govt and MSM who decide what is acceptable, and spoon-feed it to us by a process of organised dishonesty, patronage and stenography, all based on the interests of their non-dom billionaire owners.
Suffice it to say, I couldn't disagree more; question everything, get your news from many sources and never, ever believe anything you read or hear in any mainstream media without asking yourself who is saying it, why they're saying it and what vested interests are they serving.
This is a non-party political point btw - before anyone starts bleating.
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"No it isn’t. It’s still “social distancing”.
And Boris is already looking to ease the already lax “restrictions” as well as reducing furlough pay. So expect to see a spike in more unnecessary deaths due to the Tories greed.'"
How do you police a stricter 'lockdown' though? Did you see the pics the other day of the 'plane full of passengers, commercial flights are still happening, albeit on a very limited basis, as are bus, trains etc. Are you suggesting a curfew, can that be policed? Are you suggesting every single person's shopping checked, then non essential items put back on the shelf? What is essential food? Some people have medical conditions that require a certain diet, would they have to prove this to someone in a supermarket? Where does the manpower come from? As the mantra has been, stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives, they are asking people to do this, not telling, because realistically they simply can't control 60 million peoples daily movements can they.
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| Quote Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"The lockdown is only as lax as individuals make it. How about the unnecessary deaths due to peoples stupidity.'"
That's very true and you make a good point, but......what about the 'unnecessary' deaths of people who followed the stay at home message and didn't seek medical help at a hospital and sadly died as a result? Gps are apparently crying out for people to contact them and the NHS generally for non covid conditions?! Care homes are basically breeding grounds for bacteria and germs, I know because my partner used to work in one, why weren't some of those residents transferred to a nightingale hospital within their locality, then maybe some more lives could have been saved??
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| Quote Willzay="Willzay"No it isn’t. It’s still “social distancing”.
And Boris is already looking to ease the already lax “restrictions” as well as reducing furlough pay. So expect to see a spike in more unnecessary deaths due to the Tories greed.'"
Tories greed ? You mean reduction in spending tax payers money, that will eventually have to paid back ?
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And Boris is already looking to ease the already lax “restrictions” as well as reducing furlough pay. So expect to see a spike in more unnecessary deaths due to the Tories greed.'"
Wow just wow what a political statement so whats the options then?
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| FFS am I going to have to shut this one too? It really isn't needed.
Over 30,000 people have died in this country and you are arguing whether we should call it a lockdown or social distancing. Get a grip.
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